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    Posted: 01 Apr 2006 at 7:44am
I know this is fairly common in Frogs but what is it?

Is it just markings or a Form of melanism?
This guy is a regular at our pond and he's gradually become more and more mottled each year


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Another thought, could this be symbolic of male dominance?
I know the dominant agamas in turkey in get a blueish back
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Hi Al, guess what I don't know either. I do know though that it was common in garden populations in London.. I haven't seen it out here in Essex at all.

I can only guess it has something to do with melanophores.. the cells that produced melanin.

I would really like to know if this has always been recorded in common frogs or if it is something new. Something tells me it just isn't quite right

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Hi Gemma,
Yeah I though some some sort of melanism . You know , I don't feel it's right either . I can't remember seeing any like this when growing up
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You hit the nail on the head there Al, that is what bugs me, frogs were not like this when I was little!

Or were they?

I see lots of frogs now that just don't look right. Those visiting our garden pond have been just like the beasties I remember from childhood though, so it isn't happening everywhere.

I saw a lot of frogs with this weird melanism, and frogs that just looked plain odd in and around London. I can't helping thinking it is a reaction to something in the environment, perhaps causing the pigment cells to be over active?

I wish someone would take a serious look at these issues.

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Al, another weird thing, look at your piccy. Doesn't his snout look more toad like, like it it is too short and not pointy enough? Again something I saw a lot of in London frog populations..

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Oh Yeah, I hadn't noticed that how strange
Environmental damage would be the most likely reason for sure.

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