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Unfortunately some local papers are even taking this article up and a local one here has even claimed the warning is due to "a rise in reports of sightings of adders — especially in South Derbyshire."
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Increase-in-adder-sightings-leads-to-summer-warning-25052012.htm
This is very interesting news to us because:
a) There are no adders in South Derbyshire and certainly no rise in the reports of adders. There is only one location definitely known now for adders in the National Forest and it's nowhere near South Derbyshire
b) For whatever reason the HPA issued the warning, best known to themselves, it wasn't based on increased sightings or even increased numbers of queries about adder bites.

I did lend Amy from OPAL an adder slough for showing at the Live 'n' Deadly roadshow at the National Forest Conkers Centre last year. Perhaps it was possessed by the ghost of an angry adder and bit the children at the event or perhaps it became re-animated and is now roaming South Derbyshire terrifying the local population!
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Originally posted by Chris d Chris d wrote:

 
Can I get this right..... Is it while sleeping in bed when most people die ? Because I really don't want to give up you know what. Wink


Other things you can die from:

- heat exhaustion/sun burn

- lack of sleep - if like me you are up at this hour because it is too damn hot -

......or in the case where you are sleeping in a tent on a heathland where adders are known to be present and therefore likelihood of a bite in the middle of the night.
But thankfully  i am not sleeping in a tent on a heathland tonight

- falls out of bed

- bitten by an snake which is not native in this country:
sorry had to add that one in because that is the mood i am in at the moment, and is extreme must admit

you will have to excuse my sense of humour tonight Smile.
I blame the weather - it is too damn hot tonight

Happy dreams people....
I'm going back to bed as seriously need some sleep.....

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Just the sort of knee jerk nonsense one would expect after the HPA 'warning' Chris.

It really does seem at the moment that adder are not having much luck. I almost feel the next news I'll hear is there is some government plan to totally eradicate adder from the UK.


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Originally posted by GemmaJF GemmaJF wrote:

Just the sort of knee jerk nonsense one would expect after the HPA 'warning' Chris.

It really does seem at the moment that adder are not having much luck. I almost feel the next news I'll hear is there is some government plan to totally eradicate adder from the UK.




Any negative story about adders will bring out the newspaper articles. And the journalists seem to revel in these sorts of things. I don't think it is helping the adders in the long run because there is a fear of adders (and snakes in general) in the view of the general public.

So many people who ask me what i do for a living and i say "reptile ecologist " immediately refer to adders and how dangerous they are, and how they hate them etc etc.

To be fair, I only know one person who has been bitten - and twice! And he was ok, and besides adders aren't really going to bite you are they.......

Anyone remember the press coverage about the fox attacking people in their beds at night?
Never heard anything so stuipid and daft.

 And the HPA warning - that is just bonkers.

Still up as it is too hot.....

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Keith's started a thread on the topic SE. I've been tagged twice also and had absolutely no ill effects. 

Adder bites normally though are certainly unpleasant and to be avoided. We don't need scaremongering though, a simple message to wear sensible footwear when out and about in the countryside and keeping dogs on leads would have done. Also of course a timely reminder that adder are a protected species. 

I am all for the public being warned about the risk of adder bite, god only knows that we don't need is a death in the UK due to one. However the HPA should have been aware of the likely public response to using language such as 'attacks'. I've been around adder a long long time, they never attack you, all bites are purely defensive from their point of view. The only things that need to fear being attacked by adders are lizards, voles and shrews!


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It sometimes appears, at least so far as the media are concerned that we are indeed reverting to Victorian values - as in the oft-quoted saying from that era "This animal is dangerous - it defends itself when attacked"!
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