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herpetologic2
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Posted: 04 Jan 2009 at 3:45am |
A long distance translocation of reptiles (grass snake, lizards, slowworms and adders) over 175 miles was started this year. The translocation was from South Essex to Wiltshire. October Press Release - http://portal.pohub.com/pls/pogprtl/docs/PAGE/LONDON_GATEWAY /MEDIA%20SECTION/LG_PRESS_RELEASE_STORE/NEW%20PORT%20DEVELOP MENT%20CREATES%2050%2C000%20NEW%20HOMES%20FOR%20ANIMALS.PDF You can see the PR video here - http://portal.pohub.com/portal/page?_pageid=1063,323992& _dad=pogprtl&_schema=POGPRTL The EARG have been trying to find out more and have been told by Natural England & Wiltshire Wildlife Trust to write to DP world Graeme Clarke If anyone gets any response please let us know Youtube has provided further information on this project http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=usiWUVUqcZM 50,000 animals in 3 months that is an amazing feat wouldnt you agree? The EARG still havent heard anything from DP World. Natural England Local Team (01206 796666) have suggested that EARG contact the consultants working on the project. Natural England would have information on this project yet it isnt publicly available when of course it is The EARG will be contacting Thomson Ecology regarding this project...... Jon |
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Vicar
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The technical aspects of the translocation look impressive...although I wonder why that one donor site is at such a distance! - The video suggests that there are some donor sites in the locality.
We don't know how much work has gone into finding more local sites...but that is an amazing quantity of animals. Paul (in the video) is a good chap, and I would expect only the best professional standards from him. Quite correct (IMO) to seek further information before any implied criticism. Edited by Vicar |
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herpetologic2
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Hi Steve If you could contact Paul and ask him about the translocation perhaps we would know more about why they used the receptor site in Wiltshire. I have a vague idea why they used it it makes you wonder why the great crested newts had a large area purchased for them very local to the site - i.e. within a few hundred yards yet the other animals are going to two nature reserves in Wiltshire. Wiltshire Wildlife Trust accepted the animals. Everyone (WT, NE etc) involved in the project are just directing enquiries to DP World and they have not responded.......
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This interested the hell out of me. The main Wilts site is
a reclaimed airfield just up the road from me. Looks like there might finally be somewhere worth visiting within cycling distance of north Swindon! Edited by -LAF |
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If this had been a Kent project and somebody was bucketing adders out
of the county I suspect that I may also be a trifle upset... Interestingly, KRAG was recently contacted and asked to recommend a Kent receptor site for animals from the same project. I hear that other args and wildlife trusts have also been approached. Presumably the consultants involved with this project are now considering shipping the animals around the rest of the country? If ever there was a case study that exemplifies the need for statutory guidelines on the conduct and implementation of widespread reptile species mitigation work... Edited by calumma |
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The amount of land purchased had the potential to take all the reptiles in 2008. Plus some the reptiles in 2009 The EARG are trying to influence the decisions on the ground but it seems that it was the fault of the local wildlife trust and local NE suggesting that there was no suitable receptor sites in Essex - clearly wrong in EARG's opinion The EARG have been invited to visit the site again soon we will keep you informed.... |
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Does anyone have any idea as towards the carrying
capacity of the introduction site? Local twitcher groups have posted adder and common lizard sightings at the north Swindon site this year, suggesting hibernacula were successful, but the site from Google Earth looks very atypical for adders, and I will be interested as to the long term survival of this population. From a genetic and disease PoV, I can't imagine any adjacent populations to be at risk, as there aren't any (adder wise at least). In this respect the site seems safe, but not exactly terra-typica... Grass snake at "nearby sites" may be different as there is a LOT of good looking Natrix habitat available locally that I doubt is un-taken. |
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Robert V
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Sounds like an excellent project, but does anyone know why at least a few dozen of the grass snakes couldn't be released in Epping Forest?
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AGILIS
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great to see the herps being saved & removed but as Steve says why such a long distance realocation site.there is plenty of sites in Essex and neighboring counties
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-LAF
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Okay, lot's of experience and knowledge to tap into here...
What's the consensus on the risks of relocations in terms of a close-ish site with current populations and a distant site with no present or adjoining populations? |
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