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Topic: Help please Will
Posted By: Liz Heard
Subject: Help please Will
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2014 at 3:41pm
Hey Will, my girlfriend's kitchen seems to be very attractive to winged invertebrates lately, for some reason

Can you ID any of these please? Am I right in thinking the first is a Southern Hawker (?):

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any ideas for the moths please?

thanks, Ben



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Posted By: will
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2014 at 6:56pm
Hi Ben

sounds like a nice kitchen!  it looks like a southern hawker to me; I was at the London Wetland Centre yesterday and took a photo of this female egg laying.  I never realised how spiky the 'can-opener' ovipositor is - perhaps that's why they were known as 'horse stingers' in olden times?

I'm useless on moths, apart from hawk moths I am in the dark with them, as it were - sorry about that!

 


Posted By: natrix5
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2014 at 7:18pm
Hi Liz

Yes first is Southern Hawker followed by a Migrant Hawker.

Your moths are Swallow-tailed Moth followed by Small Scallop.


Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2014 at 11:52pm
Swallowtail moth?

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Posted By: GemmaJF
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 7:59am
Just an admin post to state that natrix5's post was not visible until I approved this morning, so Suzy would not have seen it when she posted.

Also, Ben, please clean your nails, they are worse than my husbands! LOL




Posted By: will
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 10:06am
Nice one natrix5, thanks for adding to my inadequate answerSmile!


Posted By: Liz Heard
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 9:35pm
Thanks Will, Suzy and Natrix for the IDs, although the 1st 2 pics are of the same dragonfly.

It seems as soon as i clean my nails they get dirty again. That's what you get for constantly grubbing out wildlife in the mud.


Posted By: will
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 9:47pm
I'll stick with southern hawker, then - immature male.  But I could well be wrong, Ben!


Posted By: arvensis
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 7:18pm
Yep, a Swallowtail moth, there's other moths that have the same common name as Butterflies, Brimstone is one.   I have my mothbox out tonight, it will be interesting what turns up.


Posted By: Liz Heard
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2014 at 4:27pm
Thanks!

Seems the invertebrates continue to find my girlfriend's place a magnet. This magnificent (and surprisingly feisty!) larva was inching it's way across the drive today:

Elephant Hawk Moth Deilephila elpenor right guys??

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Posted By: AGILIS
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2014 at 7:50pm
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Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2014 at 9:28pm
We found two of these in the garden a fortnight or so ago. As there was a weeding campaign they had to be moved onto other willow herbs. Absolutely amazed at how quickly they stripped the plants, for such sluggish seeming creatures. Funny thing is we've never seen the moths in the garden.


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Posted By: arvensis
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2014 at 1:51pm
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Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2014 at 9:48pm
I had cause yesterday to wade through a few of my gone wild grassy areas and there were various types of moths flying or stumbling about. I have to say I am fairly underwhelmed by drab looking moths such as in your photo. However I was thrilled at 8pm yesterday when a hummingbird hawk moth flew in as I was sat watching for bats. It spent 10 minutes on my verbena plants. This makes me a moth snob I guess. I like the colourful or larger moths but apart from that...



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Posted By: GemmaJF
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2014 at 11:17am
Originally posted by arvensis arvensis wrote:

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I liked it Thumbs Up

I built my own moth trap many moons ago, wooden box with a light bulb and egg boxes, probably got the idea off the telly. Something I should do again because I like the butterflies of the night, be them big and exciting or small and brownish. Wink


Posted By: Suzy
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2014 at 8:28pm
Arvensis, I do hope I didn't cause you to delete your post! I was just trying to say that plain looking moths do nothing for me. I've set up moth attracters in my garden in the past (inspection lamp lit behind a white sheet hung up) - lots came along, but nothing wildly exciting to my eyes. However I've been on an RSPB event where two enthusiasts  set up with light and egg boxes and they were very excited by the range of species.The other members of the public present only got interested when a hawk moth flew in - so it's not just me. I'm not wild about lichen, liverworts and mosses, but I know they are some folk's passion.


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Posted By: Robert V
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2014 at 6:48pm
I'm a bit confused, which of these are Migrant hawkers and / or Southern Hawkers and / or none of the above ??????




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Posted By: will
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2014 at 7:41pm
nice pics!  I'd go common darter above, migrant hawker below.


Posted By: natrix5
Date Posted: 15 Sep 2014 at 5:21am
Agree with Will.


Posted By: AGILIS
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2014 at 8:42am
Hi WILL I see plenty of them around the Stoboro area spose you do as well keith

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Posted By: will
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2014 at 1:06pm
Yes Keith, but still looking to get a decent close-up of a mating pair of migrant hawkers - the ones I see are always on the wrong side of a ditch!


Posted By: Robert V
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2014 at 11:22pm
Thanks Will,

I had to climb a tree to get the second shot!


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Posted By: will
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 6:50am
worth the effort Rob


Posted By: Robert V
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 9:58pm
Ben,

is this a penny bun?

Rob





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Posted By: Liz Heard
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2014 at 5:21pm
Hi Rob,

I can't be sure but no, i wouldn't have said so. Penny buns are usually distinctively chunky and robust mushrooms and the cap would be more chocolate-brown. The cap colour fits for Boletus luridus. Hard to be more helpful without further pics of the stem and underside and other useful hints like dimensions, nearby tree species and any colour changes upon cutting - sorry!



Posted By: GemmaJF
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2014 at 8:41am
It's a tortoise!




Posted By: kevinb
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 7:01pm
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Posted By: Iowarth
Date Posted: 22 Sep 2014 at 7:19pm
A pair of tortoises with one leg??
Wacko


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Posted By: Liz Heard
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2014 at 6:23pm
Judging by the thin (compared to many Boletus), erect and scaly stem, i'd say those are Leccinum.

But on the subject of Tortoises, i see that despite personal and species extinction, "Lonesome George" continues to get press coverage:

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