Fire-bellied toad?

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   I believe what might of happened is they have been pet's which have been released, this is extremely bad, they are not native to Britain and could really damage the eco-system of your pond, my advise is to take them to a local pet shop or basically kill them, there not good for your pond, alternatly you could try and raise them in a tank, if you want any info or help on this then just email me: pauljc_44@msn.com - P.S. they wont survive the winter

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Paul Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 27 May 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2004 at 10:47pm
	I believe what might of happened is they have been pet's which have been released, this is extremely bad, they are not native to Britain and could really damage the eco-system of your pond, my advise is to take them to a local pet shop or basically kill them, there not good for your pond, alternatly you could try and raise them in a tank, if you want any info or help on this then just email me: pauljc_44@msn.com - P.S. they wont survive the winter

administrator Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Status: Offline Points: 10	Post Options Post Reply Quote administrator Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 May 2004 at 11:01pm
	Paul, orientalis can survive the winter in the UK and I'm conviced this pair had done so. They have an extensive natural range which includes cooler climes. The pair originally mentioned are currently living safely and securely in my hall, along with a green toad from the same garden (obviously not in the same vivarium). I have no doubt someone purposely and successfully introduced a number of non-native species into the area. I no longer live in London, but would be interested to hear if any more alien species or individuals have turned up, as I didn��t have the opportunity to establish the extent of the introductions. I doubt removing 3 individuals in anyway adressed the real problem of the non-native amphibians hopping about in Hackney. (by the way they are simply brown B.orientalis) Edited by administrator

Donny Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 11 May 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 70	Post Options Post Reply Quote Donny Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 May 2004 at 10:07pm
	Oriental Fire Bellied Toads are found in Korea, North Eastern Russia and North East China...that's Siberian winters we're talking about...I am guessing British winters are fairly mild in comparison!

ROLYTOAD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 29 Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote ROLYTOAD Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 29 Mar 2005 at 8:54am
	I noticed some mention of wild bombina. There is a european fire bellied toad which is indistinguishable from the oriental to me as I have seen brown, olive, green and black variations of these. Whilst not native to the U.K. I spotted them in Ladywell park in london near the river Ravensbourne many years ago and kept them as pets. Also vis a vis brown fire bellies. I have had brown and green and can tell you that individual toads can change their colouration as it has happened to mine occaisionally, although brown ones do stay fairly dark olive when they change. How I normally tell europeans appart is by listening to their calls.Europeans that I have kept definitely said "mum". Orientals that I have kept had a less clearly consonant start and ending to their note. A sort of honking note. Below are some pictures of various fire bellies, bare in mind that size and shape vary from toad to toad and are often subject to when they last ate. European Yellow belly Orientalis
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