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GemmaJF
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Posted: 14 Mar 2012 at 6:58am |
It is interesting isn't it. Ball Pythons are known to curl up into a tight knot like ball when frightened or stressed (hence the name) - but I find grass snakes and juvenile adders already in these tight balls and have not observed anything that may have stressed the animal. I wondered too if it was linked to thermoregulation, perhaps exposing the least surface area to reduce heat loss? Very often if the animal is disturbed it will quickly become active, uncoiling itself from the knot and fleeing, which makes me think it is not a defensive posture as used by the Ball Python.
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sussexecology
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Thanks Gemma for that comment. Have come across this myself and wondered if it was to do with warming up. I found a male grass snake last year under an artifical refugia (Onduline). It was quite early in the morning, and I assumed that it was so curled up because it was warming up as it wasn't exactly v warm at the time. Also had a very torpid female slow worm on the same occassion. Of course, the grass snake could have been there all night for all I know and spent the night there. Who knows!!. If anyone knows why grass snakes do this, please let me and Gemma know as I think we are both puzzled by this.... Maybe Jon should also put a link on the ARG website for these kind of sightings
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GemmaJF
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Noodles
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It seems to suit some dopey old bird better than the word 'confuse', i think, plus it's more floral which is never a bad thing; unless you start spouting german that is
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Amy.S
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In 'The Private Life of Adders' by Rodger McPhail there are many pictures of adders hiding their eyes from the sunlight - one even using a single blade of grass!
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GemmaJF
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Discombobulate! What a wonderful word
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Noodles
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I would go with avoiding predator attack. Amphibians generally have more poison glands around the neck and head, grass snakes have a coloured neck band to discombobulate brain! attack; just a few species that use such strategies. A cool, hungry, drowsy animal is not likely to be up to much if required to scrap. Best to conceal the vital areas.
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GemmaJF
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It might be protecting the eyes, though their slit pupil can close right down. I would also hazard a guess that they know their heads are the most vulnerable part of their body in terms of avian attack and also the most useful in terms of defense, so this might be a reason to cover them too.
I've heard so many ideas on why adders have their stripe. But many times I have witnessed a strange visual effect similar to passing railings in a fast car where the stripe makes the snake look like it is moving backwards when they are at speed. Again it confuses predators in my mind as to which end the head would be. These are just my thoughts of course, it's always a case that herps leave me with more questions than answers. I often encounter grass snakes and adders curled in incredibly tight balls fully in the open or under artificial refuges. Why they do it I have absolutely no idea!
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tim hamlett
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they can't close their eyes...do they need to protect them in bright sunlight?
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AGILIS
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Oi TIM I hold the record for headless adder pics keith
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