Are We a Dying Breed?

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   Hi Dan,

I wouldn't be to offended that you have not recieved a reply from all your emails. Don't know about other members but, people often register on forums with hotmail accounts and the like , this is how emails can easily be missed.

Cheers,

Al

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Alan Hyde Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1437	Post Options Post Reply Quote Alan Hyde Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Are We a Dying Breed? Posted: 20 Oct 2007 at 12:36pm
	Hi Dan, I wouldn't be to offended that you have not recieved a reply from all your emails. Don't know about other members but, people often register on forums with hotmail accounts and the like , this is how emails can easily be missed. Cheers, Al
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Dan Kane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan Kane Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2007 at 7:51am
	Right I was wondering about adders because we may have gone today and its sunny and 16* here today! Edited by Dan Kane - 13 Jan 2017 at 5:23pm

Suzi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1025	Post Options Post Reply Quote Suzi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2007 at 7:03am
	Dan There are adders on the fells in that area of the Lakes so you might be lucky BUT it is getting a bit late in the year now. Spring might prove a better time. I realise you are tying this in with half-term hols. The lizards were in our garden when we moved there in 1961 BUT we didn't see them after that. It's a long time ago so hard to remember but possibly we were too noisy and disturbed them (an older couple had the house before us) or maybe in the bitter winter of 62/63 they were wiped out. I tend to think it was just us noisy kids that did it! If your Dad is up for it he would be the best person to accompany you on your trips and help you look for adders etc.
	Suz

Dan Kane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan Kane Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2007 at 5:26am
	I know a bit off topic, but does anyone know about adders at brantwood next to coniston, we might be going in half term (next week)? And as for having lizards in your garden Suzi..... so jelous! Edited by Dan Kane - 13 Jan 2017 at 5:25pm

Deano Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 133	Post Options Post Reply Quote Deano Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 2007 at 6:45pm
	Hello again Dan Sad though it is, Suzi has a point about your age and strangers. But she also has a very good point about groups. If you can't find a group that specialises in herps then try to find a general natural history one or a photography club. When I was young I lived in London, just that little bit too far from Epping Forest. I now live right on the edge of the Forest, but back then I had to make do with finding the odd slowworm or lizard whilst on holiday and wildlife programs shown on television (the old steam powered sets).
	Deano Better to be lucky than good looking.

Suzi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1025	Post Options Post Reply Quote Suzi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 2007 at 6:19pm
	Dan, I lived near Esthwaite! In fact it was owned by the estate I lived on! The area around Lake Windermere/Coniston/Rusland was where we knew best and where all these species were found. We even had lizards in our garden. Maybe because of your age people are reluctant to get in contact as they might feel they would have to be responsible for you. Maybe it is not a good idea to get in touch with complete strangers (we are you know) about meeting up unless it is in an organised group situation.
	Suz

Dan Kane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan Kane Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 2007 at 2:42pm
	Interest is also limited up here, with no ARG, so in my opinion all the more reason to respond to the next generation as so to maintain a helathy interest from the younger people so that the creatures can be understood more and persecuted less by everyone in time. Edited by Dan Kane - 13 Jan 2017 at 5:25pm

Suzi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1025	Post Options Post Reply Quote Suzi Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 5:16pm
	Dan, I think you know I lived in the Lake District as a kid - well 9 to 18 - and with my younger brother we took a keen interest in reptiles and amphibians. My brother was the keenest and he started whilst we still lived in grimy (then) Bolton by collecting newts which he kept in tanks in the back yard. Imagine our delight on moving to the wilds of the Lake District to find heaps of grass snakes, slow worms (not a lot where we were) and adders. Also newts, toads and frogs. We were lucky in that we had parents who encouraged our interests and let us keep stuff to look at for a short while (but not adders!). We lived in a time when kids were allowed to be more free ranging and sadly times have changed and people restrict their kids wandering more these days. I think you'll find that the majority of people on this forum started an interest when they were young and it has never left them. Some have even managed to make a living out of it but that is probably quite hard to do. I don't think it will be the case that no one takes you seriously I think it will be more that most people on here do their herping in the southern half of the country. Having said that I live in Devon and interest is pretty limited down here. We don't even have an ARG - I've asked and had it suggested I start one. Unfortunately I'm too busy with other stuff. Don't get downhearted.
	Suz

tim hamlett Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 17 Dec 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1062	Post Options Post Reply Quote tim hamlett Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 4:50pm
	hi dan http://www.wildaboutbritain.co.uk/forums/reptile-and-amphibi an-forums/16771-i-guess-snakes-dont-like-me.html i came across this on another forum. i know cumbria is a big place and you may be miles away from each other, but did it anyone ever get in touch? tim

Dan Kane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 30 Dec 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 198	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dan Kane Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Oct 2007 at 4:39pm
	Guess there aren't any more, not on here at least........ Real shame......... I understand what you meant to say a few pages ago Deano, but with the context it was in I admit to laughing at it when I first saw it lol... real mature, I know (but i'm only 15 so its O.K ) After my last post on here in April I've gained more independance and been allowed to cycle to ennerdale and other places to find herps weather permitting and to do some other stuff, but don't think that, like Tony, I'd be allowed to ride to the new forest and camp for a while (sooo lucky!) Just wondering at what age people on here started to get into reptiles, and photography, because the photos on here are awsome, and must've taken years to be able to get the experience necessary to take them; I'm in my 2nd year of it and like to think that mine are alright, but nothing special. Hope to improve them soon. But on a lower note, i'm starting to feel that no-one will take me seriously as liking reptiles (due to my age i'm guessing), because after e-mailing a few people numerous times regarding adders and other reptiles in cumbria, the emails have just been ignored, and only one person has replied (emails were about a month ago), but so far the other two have not - one of which is a member of this forum, but oh well... what can i do?...... So if you read this, please get back to me before it's too late (no names, you know who you are)
	Dan www.randacumbria.moonfruit.com