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    Posted: 06 Jun 2012 at 6:13pm
I got called to a disused swimming pool in a leafy part of London today, to fish out the newts.  No GCN, but I did get a surprise when these alpine newts were revealed in the net, including some neotenous adults:






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Nice photos Will. Out of interest what did you do with them (given that they're a Schedule 9 species)?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote will Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jun 2012 at 8:49am
good question! taken into captivity, rather than euthanased, which would have been the only alternative for the reason you point out.
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How many did you fish out will? did you report them? you can simply fill in a sighting card on the record pool www.arguk.org/recording  

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Hi Jon
 
there were around 30 alpines and almost 80 smooth newts.  Evidently a nearby pond must be the source of the alpines, but can't tell where this is, due to the high security fencing and thick hedges which all the local gardens are screened by!
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Should be swabbed for Chytrid if possible..? Might be worth dropping the guys at ZSL a line? Also, keep them away from anything else and keep strict biosecurity measures for them if in captivity. 
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What about the smooth newts? should they stay or should they also be kept in captivity?

If they are then it would definitely be good to give ZSL a line as they are looking for both alpine and smooth newts. No need to swab them if they are going to go to ZSL 




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Hi guys
 
the smooth newts were released in damp grass in the garden in question, either for them to remain terrestrial (most males had no crests, females thin) or to find another waterbody.  I won't have time to get alpine newts to ZSL; if they want a sample for chytrid they can have one though. 
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I have just spoken to ZSL and they would be able to take them, perhaps they could come and collect from you Will? Though I am sure you would want to keep hold of those neotenous newts which look great btw


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sure; they can contact me through the trust email at lehartrust@hotmail.com
 
-yes, the neotenous ones look good in one of the tanks in the school labs, so I'll hold onto them.  Also interested to see if they will lose their gills now they're not in the deep cold water of a swimming pool, too.
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