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Liz Heard
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Posted: 20 Aug 2011 at 4:04pm |
hi everyone,
i visited Stroud Town Cemetery after work today. since conds were cool with light drizzle i wasnt expecting to see much in the way of adder or viv. so i thought id check a couple of tins for slow worms instead. however wandering through the long grass i looked down and sadly, beside a grave, i spotted the remains of a dead male adder all chopped up into pieces; bearing in mind this small, isolated (by brick walling, roads and housing) urban site is frequented by many a residential dog walker etc and that viperaphobia remains a threat do you think this fatality is suspicious? i would have thought a predator would have eaten at least some of the snake and (i wouldnt know about herps) but other sick animals often retire to their refuges to die (in one piece) dont they? other areas of the cemetery have been strimmed but i wouldnt have thought an accidental killing would have resulted in such a degree of dismemberment. do you want this sighting recorded Chris? assuming that this wasnt the last survivor at this site then this corpse at least proves continued adder prescence. ben |
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Suzy
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Might it be kids? Killed it and then chopped it up?
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B Lewis
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There looks to be some puncture marks in the images and although it is very hard to say what may have caused it's demise it could have been attacked by any number of things including foxes, cats, birds etc.. The fact it is in pieces might just as easily be that something has tried to eat it post-mortem. I think it would be to prudent to jump to any conclusion based on this simple/single evidence. Just keep your eyes out for anything else that may occur on that site. Could be natural causes just as easily as anthropogenic.
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Brett Lewis Consultant Ecologist | Wildlife Photographer | DICE, University of Kent | Kent Reptile & Amphibian Group |
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AGILIS
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Could have been a hungry vampire living in the church yard
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LOCAL ICYNICAL CELTIC ECO WARRIOR AND FAILED DRUID
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Iowarth
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Unfortunately, it is often not possible to identify cause of death in all but the freshest of corpses. It might well be vipericide but equally it could have been chewed. Thanks for submitting the record Ben, even dead animals count towardds the probability of a live population. All the best Chris |
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Liz Heard
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hi everyone,
update; i visited the site again today and to my dismay i found another similarly-dismembered stiff; ive thought about contacting Stroud Town Council about it (they obviously care about the wildlife here) this is the sign at the entrance to the boneyard; perhaps an additional sign warning of the penalties for killing or injuring an adder would be a good suggestion? what do you think? on a brighter note, the vivs were easily observed amidst the memorials today ; all the best, ben |
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kit
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its said to see dead reptiles but the lizards look wonderful
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Noodles
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You should ring the number and report the sh*te sign Ben
Is a council culpable for snake bite if it does not disclaim the risks? In a land of injury lawyers for you it probably is.
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Suzy
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Just an idea - it's not strimming damage is it? Well more than damage, death. It doesn't look like they strim there but I know strimmers can chop stuff up.
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