BIG GRASSIES

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Well Keith, 
you have your answer as to why so few big Grassies around - killed by ignorance its seems. But i must get me one of those lassoo measuring sticks so I can calculate a circle laying on the floor!! 

Paul,

hi mate, haven't heard from you in a while - thing is, this one in Lithuania, and I can't see even Jon flying right over there to seek out a biggie for the record pool.

But I'll give you a clue as to why I can't post up which is probably the largest / longest Grass snake in the UK at this moment - unless suzie is right about the lake district, which all being well I might get round to having a look this summer.

Like an idiot I was so intent on the size, I wasn't thinking about the background and it is so recognisable that it would be easily identifable from the pics. Yes, I could photo shop them and cut out the background, but after the stick I just got about a photo shopped pic I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon.

Just keep looking in Kent Paul, you'll find it no doubt.

Cheers 

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Robert V Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1264	Post Options Post Reply Quote Robert V Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: BIG GRASSIES Posted: 12 Apr 2013 at 5:34pm
	Well Keith, you have your answer as to why so few big Grassies around - killed by ignorance its seems. But i must get me one of those lassoo measuring sticks so I can calculate a circle laying on the floor!! Paul, hi mate, haven't heard from you in a while - thing is, this one in Lithuania, and I can't see even Jon flying right over there to seek out a biggie for the record pool. But I'll give you a clue as to why I can't post up which is probably the largest / longest Grass snake in the UK at this moment - unless suzie is right about the lake district, which all being well I might get round to having a look this summer. Like an idiot I was so intent on the size, I wasn't thinking about the background and it is so recognisable that it would be easily identifable from the pics. Yes, I could photo shop them and cut out the background, but after the stick I just got about a photo shopped pic I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. Just keep looking in Kent Paul, you'll find it no doubt. Cheers
	RobV

Paul Ford Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 196	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Ford Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Apr 2013 at 12:26pm
	What I don't understand Rob is why you will happily post up this picture but not the one of you holding a monster...? Unfortunately, I can only think of one good reason for this. Paul

GemmaJF Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Location: Essex Status: Offline Points: 4359	Post Options Post Reply Quote GemmaJF Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 Apr 2013 at 12:33am
	That's a pretty sad end to the story Liam, but thanks for the truth about it all.

AGILIS Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1689	Post Options Post Reply Quote AGILIS Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 2013 at 7:19pm
	Three foot grassie attacks a party of hikers keith
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liamrussell Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Status: Offline Points: 100	Post Options Post Reply Quote liamrussell Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 2013 at 4:03pm
	Here is a link to a photo from the gallery from where this photo came from http://gallery.azuolas.org/naujokai07/IMG_7783 The EXIF data shows this was taken 1 minute before the photo of the snake on the stick. from this photo you can see it is clearly dead and not much larger then 3' As far as Google translate can work it out it appears that it "attacked" the party of hikers and was killed for its trouble.... *Post edited to fix link* Edited by liamrussell - 08 Apr 2013 at 5:47pm

Wolfgang Wuster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 374	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wolfgang Wuster Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 2013 at 2:01pm
	Rob, I don't actually see that as a very stout grass snake - by the time you look at the entire snake, with much of the rear end dangling, I'd say it's actually fairly slender. It certainly does not have the broad head of a really big grass snake. Moreover, there is nothing that I can see that acts as scale for an independent measurement of girth. I also don't see what you call "reflections of ventrals on his trousers", just slight backlighting and crumpled trousers.
	Wolfgang Wüster School of Biological Sciences, University of Wales, Bangor http://pages.bangor.ac.uk/~bss166/

Robert V Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1264	Post Options Post Reply Quote Robert V Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 08 Apr 2013 at 8:37am
	I think you guys are forgetting this is Lithuania, not the UK. They are probably not as inclined to "deliberately mislead" anyone, especially not in this subject because after all, they worship the Natrix (Zaltys) as a God... But hey, if it makes you feel better I won't push this topic any further. Except to say, even if you placed the body up against the camera, no way could that thickness of girth be achieved, its a mega snake and is not 3 feet long, that's ridiculous. R
	RobV

Robert V Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1264	Post Options Post Reply Quote Robert V Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 4:00pm
	lol
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Wolfgang Wuster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 374	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wolfgang Wuster Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 07 Apr 2013 at 10:42am
	C'mon folks.... it couldn't be more obvious that someone is holding the snake on a stick close to the camera while the guy is standing several feet further back. I would be surprised if that snake was over 3 ft long. The shot was clearly taken with a wide-angle lens, and you can also see that the man's shoulders are better focussed than the snake - showing that they are in a different plane of focus.
	Wolfgang Wüster School of Biological Sciences, University of Wales, Bangor http://pages.bangor.ac.uk/~bss166/

AGILIS Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1689	Post Options Post Reply Quote AGILIS Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 Apr 2013 at 5:33pm
	As Gemma says why hold on a stick if it is still alive?????????? Edited by AGILIS - 06 Apr 2013 at 5:48pm
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