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    Posted: 06 Aug 2005 at 1:39pm

can anyone give me some information on the population/s of mesotriton alpestris in Shropshire, all i know is that they are found in the Market Drayton area.

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any help at all???
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Sorry Will, not my species, nor part of the country
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Beebee and Griffith briefly mention a Shropshire population in Reptiles & Amphibians, they mention the population being restricted to a handful of small ponds in private gardens. It is possible they have colonised further in the area though since the book was written.

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i'm looking for this paper to find out more info, can't track down the paper though, can ayone help with that?

Bell, B. D. and Bell, A. P. (1995) Distribution of the introduced alpine newt Triturus alpestris and of native Triturus species in north Shropshire, England, Australian Journal of Ecology 20 367-375

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ahh cheers, that's just what i've been looking for!
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well, what i have found out is that the species has not spread more than 70 meters in almost 40 years!!!!!!!! and that the species does no damage to the local enviroment in this location, but i still haven't tracked down that paper, i'll ask the authors again....
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Interesting that they have not colonised ponds further than 70 m. In Kent,
they seem to be far more capable of dispersing. Could it just be that survey
effort has not been sufficient to detect them elsewhere in the area?

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i've no idea. it could be that they only spread 70m because there was no sutible habitat outside that range.... but i don't know
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